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The Story of THe WESTERN SKY
January 10, 2014
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Just philosophical stuff, leslee....

Dealing with the mind........... especially this last tour, I was really shocked at how differently, for example, the storyteller things were when I listened to a tape of it. So much vastly different from my memory and experience. Time wise....

Time is mutable depending on our personal perception. There's a whole field of study on this.... I don't know what it means... but it's something I'd love hard data on. Heisenberg also messed around with "reality" and we've all been here before....

Rather than jump back into that can of worms, I thought I'd share my dream I had of Justin the other night (this is the dream thread, right??) He wasn't the lovely blonde god that most fans probably dream about. In fact he was a bit curmudgenous in my dream.... and for some weird reason he was dragging this BRIGHT yellow stuffed polar bear toy around with him. I mean, bright yellow. And it was a four legged polar bear, not a typical cute teddy... it was like a nature animal toy you'd buy from the Zoo, only bright yellow and plush.

Put that in your analysis pipe and smoke it, Dr. Freud!!! Laugh

January 13, 2014
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lunazure said

Time is mutable depending on our personal perception. There's a whole field of study on this.... I don't know what it means... but it's something I'd love hard data on.

I would love the hard data as well, rather than the general field of perception flooding the information highway...I have so many questions and answers altogether yet its a difficult thing to ascertain if the right answer and the right question are lined up together....Smile and yes sometimes I believe it takes the right one and the other right one to pull it together for correctness sake to better understand what is right and what is illusion...if that makes any sense Wink
1+9=10

HNY all,

xoxoxo
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January 14, 2014
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Heisenberg is popularly misinterpreted. He only stated the fact that measurement at low levels messes with that which is measured. No biggy, no warping of reality.

Having focused on dead matter until the funding ran out, and then turning myself to the world of people, it is easy for me to see that we all come here with only a partial bag of marbles. One of the hardest lessons for me to learn was that some people are needier than others. I used to get angry because a woman with everything, a nice house, nice clothes, nice jewelry, a nice car, etc. was still demanding more and more and more. It had not occurred to me that her circuitry was wired such that she feared spontaneous combustion should she not get the latest jewelry. I tell myself to be grateful I don't need jewelry that badly, and tell myself to focus on identifying my own mis-wirings.

Absolute truth and error, as taught at elementary levels in soft subjects like history and psychology, make no sense in terms of the number of bits and bites involved and the opportunity of anybody to behave rationally or irrationally in terms of true or false inputs. I can try to filter, but then I'm not sure my understanding isn't he worst of them all. It all goes back to being true to the mind the Creator gave you and forgiving others because you look just as mean and stupid to them.

The resolution of a lot of the dilemma may be inferred from pieces of the following, which I just wrote this morning (nod-nod, wink wink):

Won't you take me back to school
I need to learn the golden rule
Won't you lay it on the line
I need to hear it just one more time
Oh won't you tell me again
Can you feel it
Won't you tell me again
Tonight

Each and every heart it seems
Is bounded by a world of dreams
Each and every rising sun
Is greeted by a lonely one
Oh won't you tell me again
Can you feel it
Oh won't you tell me again
Tonight

'Cos out on the ocean of life my love
There's so many storms we must rise above
Can you hear the spirit calling
As it's carried across the waves
You're already falling
It's calling you back to face the music
And the song that is coming through
You're already falling
The one that it's calling you

Make a promise take a vow
And trust your feelings it's easy now
Understand the voice within
And feel the changes already beginning
Oh won't you tell me again
Can you feel it
Won't you tell me again
Tonight

And how many words have I got to say
And how many times will it be this way
With your arms around the future
And your back up against the past
You're already falling it's calling you
On to face the music
And the song that is coming through
You're already falling
The one it's calling is you

Each and every heart it seems
Is bounded by a world of dreams
Each and every rising sun
Is greeted by a lonely one
Won't you tell me again
Can you feel it
Oh won't you tell me again
Tonight

ConfusedCoolCryEmbarassedFrownKissLaughSmileSurprisedWinkYell (Gang's all here.)

January 15, 2014
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"it is easy for me to see that we all come here with only a partial bag of marbles." ---- thank you............ I went into hysterical shrieking when I read that. Thankfully I live alone, and the dog ignored me, knowing my ways. As Lewis Carrol put it (via the Cheshire Cat) "You're mad too or you wouldn't be here"

"You look just as mean and stupid to them." --Boy ain't THAT the truth!!! I sat through a very tedious lesson (taught by someone else) about school bullies today... could have torn the conversation to shreds, but the objective was to make people a little more polite at the fourth grade level. So I shut up and smiled. I'm one of a minority of teachers who feels there's WAY too much whining over "bullying".......... no sense in shielding them, they have to learn to blow mean people off at some point in life. And Type A personalities actually make pretty good managers if they learn to temper their foul bullying habits. Being the boss is an ugly job, but someone has to do it.

(It's called "develop your self esteem")

This lesson today focused on the bully behavior girls use (rather than fisticuffs boys use) one of the items that stuck out was "social exclusion." Shunning**. Boy I'd like a nickel for all the times I've been kicked off newsgroups in our fan base, for something I didn't do. Another was "you can't be my friend if you're her friend" heard a lot of that in our very own fan base, won't mention names. Gossip (lots of that in the fan base) and so forth. Spreading rumors (gee never heard any of that in our fan base!!!) All the sneaky things mean girls do.... boy didn't the kids respond to cyber bully tactics??? hehe. Smart group today actually.

I find it all terribly fascinating.... and creative in a way. Like a never ending kaleidoscope, how people interact with one another. It all boils down to having a confident inner "self" and being happy with who you are, inside. Maybe that's what Justin's lyrics say, eh?

IMHO the third verse refers to *Perelandra* by CS Lewis. You'd like those leslee, not sure you said you'd read them.

Man I gotta hit the showers, good night!

**a good example of "social exclusion" would be for me to go down to the game forum and post an answer in the chain.... I can guarantee they'd ignore me, 'cause I tried it once, and they pretended I wasn't there. It's ok, I ignore them too, so we're all even, us bully girls. Laugh At least I admit it (and joke about it), and only target *other* bullies if I take a swipe at someone. (That's called standing up for yourself, and more people should do it.... openly)LaughLaugh

Again, too much philosophy.... 'night all
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HEY I just found a really hot video.... Speaking of semi-cat fights.

We all remember Katy Couric.... and Sarah Palin .... I can still remember the morning Condi Rice was interviewing with Couric, and I thought Condi was going to reach through the monitor and scratch Couric's eyes out!!! (Condi should run for office!!! one of my heroes) Anyway.... .this is a fun video with Sarah Palin. I think she was remarkably gracious and "just the facts" with the subject of Couric losing her slots on the television. (but notice how the kicker on the video made it sound....) Now. Are all three of these ladies simply confident? Type A personalities? Or mean women? Jerks? Goofy??? Bullies? It depends on our own filters maybe..... Wink

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pal.....es-around/

January 15, 2014
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Saith PHX: "I would love the hard data as well, rather than the general field of perception flooding the information highway...I have so many questions and answers altogether yet its a difficult thing to ascertain if the right answer and the right question are lined up together....Smile and yes sometimes I believe it takes the right one and the other right one to pull it together for correctness sake to better understand what is right and what is illusion...if that makes any sense" Wink

It does make sense... depending on how you line up the stars ;)

I need to line up a pillow. I really do.

I'm still back on trying to figure out why dogs line up with the North and South pole.......... hey PHX if it's serious, email off line, oh Ludwig van. leslee and I talk stuff off line a lot. Some stuff in public gets a little weird.
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Let me qualify my earlier post. I think we ALL have elements of good and evil, of bully and victim, in us all. We should laugh about our weaker moments when the "dark side" comes out, and move onward. Try to do better next time. Friends understand this. Immature people rarely get it.

January 15, 2014
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1. I was born perfect. I was such a great person. Then, about twenty years ago, I started regressing and found those around me were better than I. Would you believe it? I caught myself engaging in tactics of jealousy. It was weird. I wasn't even contemplating it, but some of my impulsive responses were totally mean and jerkish.

2. I like the concept that our worst enemies are our best teachers, but I don't mean to inspire people to be jerks to improve the human equation.

3. My recipe for avoiding malice in the fan base is to be so ugly nobody suspects Justin would ever pay me any attention. It's the "competition" that gets the eyes clawed.

4. I want to be clear that I am a full supporter of freedom of assembly, and so I let the games thread people do their thing. Contrary to popular opinion, I find satisfaction in knowing others have found joy. I have to stay out of the games because my warped personality would try its best to sabotage them. I would prefer to play games that match wits rather than lob softballs. It comes from a background where intelligence mattered and sociality was fru-fru. I've been around enough to see the sociality goes a long way further toward survival than intellect, but by now I'm too awkward. Nobody would take me seriously if I tried to be friendly and pretend I wasn't going to bite with rabies, all good intentions aside.

January 15, 2014
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I still feel like I probably upset people with that last post. I didn't mean to. You would have to know my sense of humor. Fade back to my college roommate's wedding shower. I hated it. I was the maid of honor, so I sort of had to be there, and she was the best of friends, so I wanted to support her - but all those stupid games were driving me crazy. So, as I sat rolling my eyes, the "voice within" said, "If you're so smart, win all the games." The shower took a turn for the better. I became cut-throat, vindictive. I started winning game after game. I had to mastermind and outsmart the others. It got to the point they had to start handing out prizes to the second-place winners because I was a given. You would have to understand my sense of humor to see me engineering the mass transfer of cotton balls or tricking my roomie's little sister out of her Q-tips time after time.

In other words, I'm happy for the games people, and they should be happy I don't dare go over there.

If I knew how to make a signature, mine would be: What were we talking about?

January 15, 2014
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Oh. Right. We were talking about how lovely, adorable, and irresistible Justin is. XOXOXO!

January 16, 2014
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I liked all that.................. I think I was being too caustic... however, onward. Yeah likewise, so long as they leave me alone, I'll leave them alone. Makes sense.

Did you see the reports of Justin doing the Dolby tribute in San Francisco last Monday? Wow good thing I didn't know, I might have jumped in my car and gone down there. I'll link it here if they don't beat me to it, but I'm too tired and sick right now... need bath and bed, in that order. Those bratty kids I had last week, as predicted, gave me a nice old fashioned cold. The gift that keeps on giving............

And I think I read Alan was with him.

Anyway, since Justin has been to the west coast, this does bode well that he might be busy lining up some shows here. Please. Thank you. Laugh
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I haven't digested all this yet, but Justin and some other sidemen type Moodies were in San Francisco for a tribute. ??? Jill found it, check your own sources

http://www.philzone.org/discus.....1389740235

http://www.sfgate.com/entertai.....146433.php

I just had time for a little taste this morning.... check these links... no video, just sound. I think the strings should have been cranked up a bit more myself. Will listen more later... Wildest Dreams, Question, Nights, and Alan on the keys, with Julie on vocals?

http://moodybluesattitude.yuku.....tf2NbSWRdc

January 16, 2014
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No. I didn't hear. I'll get to it when the excitement dies down here.

Did you ever figure out what that aurora-like flash was in the Bay Area?

January 17, 2014
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pro'bly a transformer blowing......... the wind was pretty weird that night. I thought the poolagah people were going to get me, driving back to SJ in the fog.

Ditto on listening to all (Norda has some things getting played too) too sick... just reading news, and plan to go prone with good food and good drinks, recharge...

January 17, 2014
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I didn't really enjoy the clips. The picture was teeny, tiny and stationary. The sound wasn't good at all. Then, I got attacked by the big, green monster wondering what it would be like to be Alan or Julie. They are so heavenly together.

For the meanwhile, I dug Donald Fagen's book. He would kill me for saying so, but it was a nice little book.

January 18, 2014
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I'll check for Fagen today, see if I can download to Kindle.... instant gratification! I need a reading break anyway...

January 18, 2014
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I loved the book. Fagen and I share a lot of vocabulary and attitude. It was like he was reading my mind, except I don't wish for havoc, cry for mommy, and use some of the words he does. I was somewhat disappointed the book was not nearly as fearsome and side-splitting as I had expected. It did, however, give me a sense of sanity, in that I saw being a freak is bad, but not an isolated incident.

One of the things I liked best was the admiration he shared for Walter Becker. I liked Steely Dan, I liked Fagen solo, but Becker's solo work never did anything for me. I therefore concluded Fagen was the genius behind Steely Dan, but now I'm open for reconsideration.

Another thing I liked was the tales of the venues, most of which I'd visited on Moodies tours; the rest probably only changed their names to avoid recognition. It was nostalgic. One gains some insight into the life of a star and what it's like to be on-stage.

It was nice just to read good English for a change, too.

Oddly, I had to sit on a hassock at my desk here due to back problems. Upon reading Fagen's book, I thought how it was like him, always sitting low on stage and in interviews. A couple days later, my back was well enough to kick the hassock and return to a human chair.

I finished reading my assignment from my teecher, too; and mailed it in the SSAE this morning. I've had two nights off in a row, and 8-10 hours off each day may become a regular thing for the short-term. Everything is closed during my off hours, so it should help me save money, too. Yay!

January 18, 2014
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Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gosh someone else was griping about their back today.............. heck I massage my OWN back..... it pays to have been, not only a dancer, but to have had anatomy and physiology too. I know right where to dig and massage. And to stretch.

Don't wear heels unless you have to. They are NOT good for your back. (I know your ways, leslee.... I'm still in awe of those shoes you had on)

Fagan is in cue, but I have my own homework to do tonight....

January 18, 2014
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I think it was the flats that destroyed me. I know, everybody feels better when I wear flat shoes, but my brain thinks my body aches without the heels. Yes. I need shrinkage.

I'm on a mean streak. I have two Gutfeld books to review by Tuesday. Maybe after that, I'll visit the realm of Justin and Julie where all is gardenia-scented and pastel flower petals fall from the sky glistening in the sunlight after rain. The birds cheep sweetly, and a warm summer breeze caresses everybody's face. Nobody hits a sour note, and all is love, love, love. Abandon all chocolate, ye who enter here.

Now, about my January 19 resolutions . . .

January 18, 2014
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I LOVE Greg Gutfeld!!! Now you give him a good review................. how anyone can be that nasty, and still make me laugh I don't know.... he's almost as good as Dennis Miller. How I miss my cable and Fox news!!! I go over and watch the videos once in a while just to get a laugh.

catchin the Red Eye..... yea tell me what you think of them, or links to your blogs??? Please??? on of off line I don't care.

January 19, 2014
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The first 148 pages are lame - as if an editor ground off all the rough edges. I can't believe it. He is even playing "appropriate" games in his attack against political correctness. I'm not learning much.

I don't know if I mentioned it here, but this Christmas season, I was swiped off my gig as second-string pianist by a visitor. She demanded to have her partner heard singing a Christmas song. The venue was not one known for lateral entry. I tried to calm down and embrace the Christmas spirit, but then the singer piped up and started singing about how we don't know if Jesus was white or black.

That popped a gasket. I made the resolution to punch anybody in the face that tried to ram down my throat that divisive fallacy about me only being able to relate to those who look like me. (That and this are my only two attempts at pretended hatred.) I came back a couple days later to explain. I am ugly. By definition, there is no way a politically-correct person could be anything but a beautiful peep. Therefore, in order to understand what they were trying to tell me, I must necessarily realize some form of superficial equivalence.

I am happy to say I have kept this resolution, as nobody has tried to find a hunchback, pear-shaped, long-nosed, possum-eyed, white female with an egregiously dislocated tibia to relate to me, yet.

P.S. What were we talking about?

January 20, 2014
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Anything having to do with *Spirits of the Western Sky*, which i guess takes in religious philosophy.

I am, like many are, wary of racial essays. So much of it IS divisive and race baiting. The fact is, Jesus was probably a Brown Guy, somewhere in between, with a lovely large nose (I like men with large noses). And brunette complexion. Might have needed a bath after a hot day fishing with his mates, or walking around talking to the throngs. Why would it matter? I suspect the people of the region were all sorts of colors, rather like Southern California in the summer. (Trying to picture Jesus in a big ol' sunhat, with sandals and beads).

I do rather like the concept of Black Santas. I understand there is a very cool Black Santa in the LA area, and African American families really travel long distances to take their little ones to see him. Role models come in all shapes sizes and colors etc. Sadly some jerks think they were put on this Earth to single-handedly solve the Vanilla Media conundrum, and it gets old after a while. Quite self aggrandizing often.

No one likes pushy people with agendas, no matter what season. Be careful your ego needs don't drag you down to their level with THEIR ego needs. As Jesus put it "shake the dust off your heels and move onward"

January 21, 2014
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I really don't think Jesus cares about race. Right now, he's probably singing Ray Stevens' "Everybody's Beautiful . . . Everybody, now!" metaphorically, at least. Let's talk about something that matters - like the topic of this thread.

Why can't my eyes be blue; worse, why can't they have Justin see himself appearing in them?

Voice of parents: Keep on acting that way, and you won't even see dinner!

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