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July 4, 2014
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I need help with my English today, and help getting some time off and good seats for some concerts. Actually, I need help with a million things, like getting up in the morning and hauling myself into work, improving my mind, learning how to read people and be kind, protecting me from potentially dangerous weirdos, giving me straight answers - oh, and an introduction to Mr. Hayward. You are so right.

July 5, 2014
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I've decided you may have Justin if you can catch him. You may have the whole thing. You too Bonnikins. Go get Justin! Catch him take him home on your hood! He's all yours!!!!

He's too dramatic for me. I want a nice simple plain life. No drama. No maybes. No flash bang on stage. NO games. No blonde hair (I don't even LIKE blonde haired men, what am I doing???) No blue eyes (ugh ALL the men in my family have blue eyes, why would I want MORE of that around???) No hot guitar. (Well, maybe some music, that can stay) No money. No fame. No fortune. I have my own money thank you. I just want to be a little brown house frau mouse.

I'll stick around and listen to the chit chat just for fun. I guess.

I think I'll go join the Colin Farrell fan club. Or the Robert Downy Jr. fan club. Handsome dark Irish types.... with brains. Wonder if they'd take in a beaten up old war horse fan-addict like me. Yoo hoo!!! I stalk and celeb-blog for free!!!

July 6, 2014
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July 6, 2014
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ah I see you'll take me up on that offer. Sounds good to me! :) li'l toe pick what would we do without you??? Justin is your trophy to have and hold, all those photos, surely you must possess his soul by now...........

July 6, 2014
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July 7, 2014
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July 7, 2014
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[I refer you to Kurt Vonnegut *Breakfast of Champions*]

July 7, 2014
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July 8, 2014
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Anyone hearing voices out there? I found the most interesting article... had to share it. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Cheers! Laugh

http://www.mentalhealth.org.uk.....ng-voices/

July 8, 2014
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The worst was when the shrink asked me to tell her about the voices I was hearing, and I swear I could not hear them at all. What does that mean, Doc?

July 8, 2014
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I only hear them once in a while, a word or two here and there (barely worth notice). It's some artifact the mind produces apparently. It's the same as the visual effect you get once in a while, where you think you see movement out of the corner of you eye? (or I do anyway). The brain is a fascinating organ.

The other half of the equation is, maybe the voices are REAL and are somehow coming to us through time, space, wormholes and door ways to other dimensions. The possibilities are really wonderful to contemplate.

Mostly I would like my voices, if they ever start up in seriousness, to sing lovely songs to me. I've dreamt a few times about music and people singing but not very often (not often enough!) Professional musicians and singers must hear things like that all the time in their dreams. How lovely..... sigh.

I'm all about people talking about whatever they think they see or hear. Before *Omni* magazine went defunct, they were really into UFO stuff, and I consider such stories simply an artifact of hallucinations... it's all of worth. Many people live with hallucinations as part of their lives. So long as they don't bug anyone else, it's ok.

July 8, 2014
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What mortal, besides you, sees the world as it is? My brain is fuzzy. I forget things, I attend to only a portion of my field of view. I misremember things. Worst of all, I often think others get their stories wrong. I thought that was part of our mortal experience. Now, you tell me people see and hear things from other dimensions? Pardon my skepticism. Once again, bring me something from another dimension that I can use, and we'll talk. Remember, the Industrial Revolution and all that has followed is the result of empiricism supplanting superstition.

Excuse me, I'm getting a message from someone.

July 9, 2014
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Empiricism is the cornerstone to the Age of Reason. Who said I wanted to be reasonable? ;)

Uhmmm a good example of subjectivism, which is my stock and trade. There's a Star Trek episode, darn if I can remember the title of the episode, but Commander Riker is accused of killing a dude on a space station, because Riker had put moves on the wife. (Riker of course said he hadn't, that the wife put the moves on HIM, and both of them were huge flirts naturally). All these different people did their testimony in the holodeck, which is a 3-D projector, the computer takes your input and recreates the story you tell it. EVERYONE like three or four people, had different stories of the same event, each from their own perspective and through their own personal filters. It was really really interesting. Ol' Counselor Troi, she explained it all in her psychobabble way, everyone "sees it differently." And it was all valid testimony.

I don't know about you, but I've had this experience myself at Moody shows (it's a good way to study the effect) I see one show, but someone on the other side of the room who might have a video going, saw something entirely different. That's why one super fan might say "Justin had a bad night" while another says "He was really having a good time!" Some of it is through personal filters.... if YOU feel good, then Justin must too! LaughLaughLaugh etc.

I'm just as bad as everyone else with this! Hope that makes sense. NO ONE sees the world as it really is, but we can continue to work at it. Or go about enjoying the cloud of fantasy improbability that exists around all of us, and ignore the concrete facts. And, yes, music DOES alter consciousness. Very magical stuff, and the Moodies know it too. Laugh
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Speaking of UFOs, here's the real story, from Buzz Aldrin

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/.....21618.html

Unscrupulous media will twist it around every time......... for a thrill, for the mischief of it.

July 9, 2014
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It's like this, Doc. I feel like I"m in checkmate. If I want to have friends, I have to play along and answer the lies. If I want to protest, I look like a whiny baby. I don't know how to interact without hurting others, but I do so much long to be an influence for good.

July 9, 2014
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Keep right on being nice! If this helps, 1) embrace a certain level of isolation in your life. It's ok to be alone with your thoughts and 2) one must "always leave the wall" or a little bit anyway. No one needs to know your inner thoughts.... that's between you and the Supreme Being. People often drive me nuts, everywhere, all the time, all ages, all types. I just smile, say little or nothing, and deal with it, and vacate the premises as soon as rationally possible.

I suppose I'm in a gifted spot right now, I don't have to work with the same people day in and day out, I live alone, and I can do as I please. Getting downright spoiled in fact.

I would think church would be a good spot to socialize. Everyone is on their best behavior there.

By all means, don't answer any lies with ME.... just say "no I can't answer that" and don't. You know I won't be offended! (no answer is an answer in itself and says I've gone to far! Which I do, and everyone does occasionally) Set your boundaries with good grace, and don't worry about it.

July 9, 2014
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I love answers.

But when you're crazy like me, and everybody else is sane, it puts things in a different perspective.

Why are you lying to me? I can't be clinical material because I"m so far gone nobody would believe my case study.

Church could be good if I didn't have a certifiable stalker who preaches a gospel of sex and submission. Fortunately, I can hide behind the piano, and my dear friend Cindy is being an awfully good bodyguard.

I know. I'm being punished for preferring chocolate to alchemy. Whaddup widdat, Doc?

July 9, 2014
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I don't lie.... I'm too clumsy to keep track of it all!!! :) I HAVE been known to omit certain facts. Wink or warp facts to suit my purpose (usually for good, tho we all slip occasionally.... )

A lot of people inadvertently tell falsehoods because they don't have all the facts, or just get part of the story. Again, Reality can be a slippery notion.

"He had found the philosopher's stone, and now he was being forced ceaselessly to transmute the swiftly made gold of his happiness into the lumpy lead of patience." -- Rilke, speaking through his character Malte

I really need to track Rilke more.... I picked up *On the Way to the Wedding* (Leonard) tonight, possibly the best Jungian book I've ever read, and I think I narrowed down some of "In Your Blue Eyes"................ as much as the lyrics bug me, it seems Justin might have been dabbling in Jungian poetry. Rilke draws very close parallels between "divine love" and death.

You know Justin absolutely knocks my socks off, but writing this sort of stuff for popular music is sorta spooky and probably goes over a lot of heads. The answer appears to be in Rilke and in this book I'm reading. Interesting. More likely Justin is fond of Rilke, as my author is too.

I'd discuss it more, but Jungian psychobabble is not what you want to call "friendly night time reading"........

July 10, 2014
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I've never felt good about practicing psychology behind peoples' backs. I have worked in environments where that was all the rage. I am so incompetent at it, I must refrain. And yet, I would long to understand Justin's mind.

Unlike you and Justin, I am totally unfamiliar with Rilke. Personally, I do not link divine love with death so much as I link it with eternity, in the sense of something more alive and lasting than the material world.

I hope Mr. NSA Man does not relay anything here that its going to pinch a nerve with Justin. I feel I am treading on sensitive territory.

If we believe Justin, and I do, he writes things from the heart that resonate with something he does not name. If he wanted to record pop and do the fame game, he would be making more lucrative business decisions. I applaud his devotion to things of a higher nature.

"In Your Blue Eyes" always makes me feel like I was given the key to the wrong motel room. "Oops. Sorry. Not my party." But it was "Capturevated by You" that unnerved me with its mixture of the holy and the erotic. I love the song like crazy, and for whatever demented reason, still rate it as one of the top ten musical compositions ever - even though "The Western Sky" was so perfect live, it made me forget about . . . What was that song? Oh yes, "Capturevated by You," -- though beautiful, majestic, and speaking of love in an ultimate, eternal sense as I envision it having no experience myself -- sounded like an invitation to sell one's soul for just one night, and, we've all heard how that goes.

July 10, 2014
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leslee: How many times must I tell you, if you stop eating chocolate, you will stop making those awfully word-processed, run-on sentences.

July 10, 2014
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Funny how we all respond differently to different things.

"Western Skies" is so in tune with whatever *I* am............ it feels like a super comfortable suit of clothing. I like being in that music space.... very much so. It's the landscape between Phoenix and Blythe.... the stars in a clear sky... the wind in your hair....

"Captivated" is erotic??? Really? It's just super fine love poetry to me.......

"Blue Eyes" yes a lot of Jung, Rilke. And still not sure I like the song, a sort of "practicing without a license" feeling. I think. He worked too hard on that one. (Personal filters I think, I saw several women raptly gazing at Justin during it in concert... so SOMEONE likes it). I tracked Rilke today and he's more in line with Jim Morrison oddly. It's very very heady poetry.... I can only take so much at a time. My prescription to you (and again, it's your business whether you take me up on it or not) is to read *The Sonnets to Orpheus* and *Love Poems to God* I found them very easily at my small public library. Rilke is underground popular.

I still think "Eastern Sun" is the best song off the CD .... and the lovely "Lazy Afternoon" too. How can one pick a favorite out of all those? I played the album last night, and was shocked to hear "Broken Dream" in it. That was all so long ago......... it was so important to me at one time. I still think *Parsifal* is woven into that one......

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