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leslee I thought you'd be interested in this. Remember we saw those turquoise flashes over the Bay Area that night on the freeway? There are forces in this world we still don't understand.
This was a fun query. If I remember correctly, we were going to a show. I'm thinking it was when I was coming in from Reno on the slow bus and we made a mad dash out of the Greyhound station to try to get to the venue. That would put the date at October 27, 2013.(1) It was already dark as I recall. The show probably started sometime between 7 and 8pm, so any time from 6-8pm would be game - unless we saw it when you were driving me to the airport.
The USGS reports six earthquakes of note impacting California on that date on that date. The times are given in UTC, and I don't know how that varies with daylight savings time, but I suppose it would require subtracting 7-9 hours, or a time of 1-5am UTC September 28. And I struck out.
Granted, earthquakes happen all the time; especially in California, but the closest I found was a 1.5 quake in El Diablo at 23:44 UTC.(2) That would have been behind us, and as I recall, we were already in the wetlands, and the lights were to the northwest. Again, my memory is mush. You picked me up in Oakland, right?
This is not to say there wasn't any aftershock. Besides that, I'm reminded of the time I was sure we had an earthquake. I was on my sofa in the wee hours and I felt my equilibrium swaying while the world around me seemed still, the sensation of mass movement I've felt in other shock waves. The next morning, I couldn't wait to find out where the earthquake was, but there was nothing. About three months later, I met up with my roommate who informed me there had been a sinkhole the size of the house in the back yard. (I was never home during daylight, so how would I know?) The house was four stories, inhabited by four households, and about as square as it was high. In fact, the hospital across the street paid to patch the hold as they had a building nextdoor. The point is, the earth can move in big ways without the USGS picking up on it.
As to new forces, my answer will probably always be no. I recall reading a long time ago about ants and other creatures going crazy before earthquakes, it being supposed the earth leaked ozone prior to earthquakes. The notion makes sense. There would be major friction sure to ionize matter. However, there is a body of research doing what I would consider putting the cart before the horse and correlating ionospheric disturbances causatively with earthquakes. (3)
I'd LOVE to get to the bottom of this. It's the kind of stuff I used to study at ESJ. Ah, the good old days.
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(1) http://www.moodybluestoday.com.....fall-tour/.
(2) http://earthquaketrack.com/qua.....-utc-1-5-6
(3) https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=earthquake%20ionosphere
This was a fun query. If I remember correctly, we were going to a show. I'm thinking it was when I was coming in from Reno on the slow bus and we made a mad dash out of the Greyhound station to try to get to the venue. That would put the date at October 27, 2013.(1) It was already dark as I recall. The show probably started sometime between 7 and 8pm, so any time from 6-8pm would be game - unless we saw it when you were driving me to the airport.
The USGS reports six earthquakes of note impacting California on that date on that date. The times are given in UTC, and I don't know how that varies with daylight savings time, but I suppose it would require subtracting 7-9 hours, or a time of 1-5am UTC September 28. And I struck out.
Granted, earthquakes happen all the time; especially in California, but the closest I found was a 1.5 quake in El Diablo at 23:44 UTC.(2) That would have been behind us, and as I recall, we were already in the wetlands, and the lights were to the northwest. Again, my memory is mush. You picked me up in Oakland, right?
This is not to say there wasn't any aftershock. Besides that, I'm reminded of the time I was sure we had an earthquake. I was on my sofa in the wee hours and I felt my equilibrium swaying while the world around me seemed still, the sensation of mass movement I've felt in other shock waves. The next morning, I couldn't wait to find out where the earthquake was, but there was nothing. About three months later, I met up with my roommate who informed me there had been a sinkhole the size of the house in the back yard. (I was never home during daylight, so how would I know?) The house was four stories, inhabited by four households, and about as square as it was high. In fact, the hospital across the street paid to patch the hold as they had a building nextdoor. The point is, the earth can move in big ways without the USGS picking up on it.
As to new forces, my answer will probably always be no. I recall reading a long time ago about ants and other creatures going crazy before earthquakes, it being supposed the earth leaked ozone prior to earthquakes. The notion makes sense. There would be major friction sure to ionize matter. However, there is a body of research doing what I would consider putting the cart before the horse and correlating ionospheric disturbances causatively with earthquakes. (3)
I'd LOVE to get to the bottom of this. It's the kind of stuff I used to study at ESJ. Ah, the good old days.
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(1) http://www.moodybluestoday.com.....fall-tour/.
(2) http://earthquaketrack.com/qua.....-utc-1-5-6
(3) https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=earthquake%20ionosphere
In the end, I'm just a doofus. We should ask this chica:
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Impacts_of_induced_seismicity_and_su.html?id=EHYoAQAAMAAJ
Hers is my sista!
Wow she's published in Nature!!!! I am not worthy!!!
I thought of that as we were driving..... this "flash of light" stuff is not new with earthquakes. Likely it's some electrostatic release as the plates grind against each other, I've never thought about it heavily. Hard to quantify because we can't predict earthquakes!!! Indeed Mt. Diablo would have been to our back and east as we drove. BUT... we were headed toward the San Andreas, and traveling more or less along the Hayward/Mayacama fault which is parallel (to the east) of the San Andreas.
I flew over the San Andreas to the south of San Jose once (where we were headed) sorta scary how obvious and big it is when you get some altitude. All the faults are interconnected and that whole area is a mess seismically.
There was just a 7.3 or 6.7 earthquake near Fukishima and they are being hit by a tsunami as I speak. Poor guys, they need some prayers. I'm a happy person and not lost at all when I think of something so horrible.... shudder...
I probably phrased that wrong. I think I was trying to say "not much scares me" and I don't lose my way much anymore.... according to the Tao, our path is always before our feet. We simply need to keep our footing and move along as appropriate. Anyway ............ have a good Thanksgiving out there.
I was doubting your Tao today. Evo and I meandered into the backside of a no-trespassing sign and tried to worm our way out through burrs and such leading us into a huge industrial compound surrounded by barbed wire. We walked the whole thing - ruins, a transformer station, a waste treatment plant, some industries - before getting back to the place we weren't supposed to be trespassing. That was not good - about two hours of trespassing. We got to visit a beautiful field that is now turned to dust, though. Due to drought, the earth is soft dust and the sky is smoky, still.
I wish I could send some of OUR rain to you.... too wet for rational thought or desire to go out of the house.
I need to knock off and do something tonight. I was a complete slug today. The clouds are so depressing. This place is too full of junk for me to be laying down and doing nothing. It's so easy to stare at the television or the computer and do absolutely nothing. I cooked today, and my cat liked the chicken liver.... I bought a little live tree but haven't decorated yet.
Be careful trespassing like that. I did that once and came upon a big dog... luckily I ran and got on the other side of the fence. Could have been toxic stuff in there, and so forth. We had some jerks yesterday and locally, violate a no trespassing sign, hunting deer with a bow and arrow. Near a school and peoples' back yards. So yeah be careful.
Something interesting for you leslee (you'd never guess where I ran into it) has to do with light refraction. Rosalind Franklin, or Photo 51
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_51
It's all hindsight now, but the real "nailing down" of the structure of the double helix (structure of DNA) started with Rosalind Franklin, a woman. Big push on now to get women recognized in science (nothing new as far as I'm concerned) ... really serious hoo doo in the world of microbiology. Watson and Crick were of course, researching in the same field, and generally researchers share their data, thus no scientist truly stands alone in their discovery, often. EVERYONE was hot on the trail of DNA and how it worked.
Eventually the mechanism behind inheritance was understood to be a function of the "unzipping" of both sides of a double helix, with genes (inheritance codes) attached, and thus scrambled randomly. For a long time it was thought to be a single strand, not double. NOW there is thought that DNA is sometimes a TRIPLE strand.
In theory, the parts of the DNA strand, the phosphate, the simple sugar and the linking proteins (?) Adenine, uracine, guanacine etc... will all resonate and refract light at different part of the light spectrum. (Just like the stars do.) Not a science for the faint of heart, especially in 1952.
Thanks to the person who turned me on to that little tidbit.
Another tidbit for you leslee, has to do with aurora
I just found out today that Kevlar, which is used in bullet proof vests, was invented by a woman as well.
Found some wave physics for you leslee. Something about Alfven waves??? I sorta got it, but have no use for the knowledge.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nasa-observations-reshape-basic-plasma-wave-physics
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