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lunazure said
Oh that can't be true. Didn't Elvis sing anything in a minor key? Or Bob Wills? Now you're making me think!!!!
Maybe it depends on what you consider "pop"..........
I never really paid any notice (very little) to Elvis...so I wouldn't know...I never really did like Elvis-maybe that's not American as far as many are concerned-but Gary Puckett I always thought outdid Elvis vocally--anyway, not sure how much credence can be applied, myself, to the claim...scary thing usually about that particular brother though is that when he says something specific like that he's usually correct, or closer to it than anyone else that I personally know....like Leslie wrote, there would need to be an accurate list by a truly studious individual interested in clarifying or refuting the point, to really know.
sorry I haven't been here, because I've been here there and everywhere lately....
3+11=14
I must disagree.... never liked that song, too schlock. One of those pseudo Elvis voices.... yes good, but putting the orchestra with the grand triumphant music behind is gliding the lily. I'm not a huge Elvis fan either, but that Elvis song has a history.... me Mum (again a Mum story) said she saw an old lady and old man at the Elks bring the house down with that one. I can just see an old granny singing that one. They were banging spoons and everything...
Yeah it's (the Union Gap one) a really nice song but sorta overpowering.... never did care for the song. If some guy sang that to me I'd run screaming!!!! you know, it's something a stalker with a shyness problem would post on your facebook.
I don't like scat. I don't like vowel calisthenics, either. I think Luther Vandross was the only one who could make it sound good. Maybe a few others did. I prefer Justin's clean, clear, powerful, "I love you," or is it, "I'll love you;" to Whitney's, "Hiiiiiiiiiii will always love you-oohooh--oah-wa." The security guard who saved the world by rummaging through my bag at my second-to-last Moodies concert called that song by Whitney his last favorite, and griped that they were playing it on the PA.
I am now listening to the sound of silence. Funny, a robin hopped in front of my car as I came in here this morning. I was hoping he would sing, but he didn't.
Then see you ARE listening to the words. So listen to what you just said!!!
I like scatting because it's like bird song, nothing there but the sounds. Same concept as Enya, she and her husband/producer just used her voice as an instrument, I think she went to just sounds, not words finally in some songs. I fell in love with scatting when I saw Ella Fitzgerald and Roger Miller doing it live once on Dinah Shore.... we went in to Hollywood to see it. Good experience.
Yeah I agree they beat that Whitney song to death......... but she had a marvelous voice, and I really enjoyed *The Bodyguard* I'm a huge Costner fan too. I just happened on that song, looking for scatting. This Whitney song isn't even proper scatting, it's supposed to sound a little dirty.
Now, why would you want me to listen to something a little dirty?
I enjoy Enya, decreeing her music to be beautiful and scat to be agitating. I suppose there are some artists, as always, who can turn it into something glorious. It is probably like a Bach fugue - a blast to perform but not particularly redeeming to hear. My, I'm cross today. Servant! Another tub of Ha!
Enya head now to listen to something magical..... interesting read on the screen....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....nZC-NCsbtI
(a discussion of the Lord of the Rings soundtrack)
I simply thought the music to LOTR was lovely and beautiful all the way through. I know there's people out there who are good at dissecting music structure, but that's one thing I can't do. I do enjoy listening however. Marvelous voices through out. Mostly on a Gregorian spectrum somewhere, which is probably mathematical and Bach-ian. I loved Enya's "Evenstar" in the first movie very much.
Same with art, I have a tough time being structured with it. Sometimes I turn out decent stuff, sometimes I don't.
This particular set of music is mostly wallpaper, background stuff that is to set a mood, not convey a message. But it IS nice.......
I agree and disagree. I don't care if I never analyzed Moodies' music, but I do like to dissect light and sound to gather input for my own creations. Actually, my creative side died about ten years ago.
Anyway, on the topic of dissecting mood music, I used to love abstract soothing, smooth synths. Then, one day, a very good friend told me about a parody of a certain New Age composer. It destroyed over half of the genre for me, so I'll say no more.
Notes: Tales of Hoffmann (Offenbach), April 19, 2014
Offenbach was born in Koln in 1819 to Jewish parents, his father was a Kantor. Offenbach went to a conservatory (school) in Paris, at a very young age he was recognized as gifted on the violin. He dropped out after a year, and became a local musician. He started writing French comic operas. One was Orpheus in the Underworld (Orphee aux enfers, 1858). His affairs began to decline (terrible at handling money) and he went to America (Philly) in 1876.
The era was referred to as "the Beautiful Era" le Belle pah (? a term I didn't know and will have to look up) but it would tie into the Latreuc era, and the Moulin Rouge, the Can Can. Bohemians.
Tales of Hoffman was originally a play, and came from stories by ETA Hoffman, who was insanely popular in the late 1700s and very early 1800s all across Europe.... Coppelia and Nutcracker are two ballets which come from Hoffman. Hoffman was typically German and noted for finding the mysterious, the magical and the grotesque in everyday things, somewhat through the eyes of an innocent child.
Offenbach picked up the play (the name of the writer escapes me) and turned that into his opera. Offenbach was 61 when he died, and he hadn't really finished "Tales" but he had laid out the vocal and piano part of it, in three acts. Later people, students and so forth put together the orchestrations.
The Sandman: The Tale of Olympia is the first act. It's a story about a girl who is really a wind up doll (an automaton). I would refer everyone to the story of Coppelia, the ballet at this point, it's a well known story. (Quite funny in the right hands too).
Act II: The Tale of Antonia: a young girl is drawn into a portrait of her mother, and tempted by the violin song of the devil (???), sings herself to death. Dr. Morabula is the villain and the mother is a ghost, a "willis" sort of figure, a will o' the wisp. This speaker tied in "Tartini's Dream" which I need to look up, it was fascinating. Basically it was about a young girl dealing with the Thanatos principle before it had been invented by Dr. Freud. Long musical discussion with this one about dim 7th chords (lost me, but yes I agree it was a bit dissonant). He DID make an interesting observation about how "Wood never dies, it's alive. Musical instruments change and warp, move with heat and moisture". I thought about it in terms of certain modern guitarists who love their main guitars so much... might ownership of a musical instrument make it more sympatico with its master??? what a concept!!!
Act III: The Tale of Giulietta (Julietta) the courtesan. The famous "Barcarolle" is from this act (done in a lilting 6/8 time). The clip I put up earlier is from a 1951 movie by Powell and Pressburger (Pressburger did the movie The Red Shoes which is familiar to many). In the end, she dumps him.
The three acts taken together are the disappointments in love that ETA Hoffman allegedly suffers in his life. In the end, his true Muse reveals herself (she's been disguised as a male student, and I was deeply tempted to ask if Offenbach and/or Hoffman was/were gay, but there were some older folks there, no sense in stirring them up, poor dears). It ends a bit like the movie Xanadu did, "For the artist, your muse is always with you, you're never alone" sort of ending.
I love music, stories, art, design etc etc............. but MAN some of the overpowering over-trained voices in the clips he played were too much for me. And some were very enjoyable (I liked the mechanical doll's singing, sounded like birdsong). It was all in French anyway so it would be lost on me if I went to see the opera. I honestly never did like opera as an art form.... ballet makes so much more sense to me. I like musicals too. Anyway the current Seattle Tales of Hoffman production looked really good design-wise. If I think of it, I might go over and see it (would depend on the ticket costs).
I'm going to see Arlo Guthrie tonight like a 10 min drive from me in my home town, so I'll report back on that next. Just thought you'd enjoy knowing how my musical weekend was going! REALLY GOOD so far!!! What an enjoyable afternoon!!!
Happy Easter to all!
Thank you for sharing. Today, I got soaked with the dog in the woods. It was the best place to be in the rain, surrounded by bright, young, green sprouts, a river, slippery rocks, etc. I've spent the rest of the day in misery, as I didn't have a change of clothes. The dog-pog is still wet, too. Yeah. That's as intellectual as I get anymore.
I'm not one for interpretations; I'm shallow. Music survives or dies mechanically on its chording. Then, music either stirs my soul or it doesn't. The thingies that give me shivers are the keepers. I find myself disappointed on a lot of sopranos. Even in opera, these girls can hit the notes, but their quality isn't there. They strain, fade, and aspirate, and that doesn't sound good to me, but what do I know. Good tenors are the best, methinks. Bassists can sound like cattle lowing, and altos normally don't get interesting lines. Occasionally, I will hear somebody who has a lovely voice. Latin languages sound so much better in song. Even I sound good singing in Portuguese.
Back to interpretation, the last time I was in Chicago, the people on the opera station were talking about Verdi, and they kept talking about things that matched my own personal spiritual experiences. I wanted to know more, but alas. I did not remember I wanted to pursue his bio until just now. Maybe it was the interpreter and not Verdi, contorting Verdi's life through his lens. The world may never know. Thanks for the reminder.
I liked "Tales from Hoffman" musically as a child. All that doll stuff - nah.
Cattle lowing............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....0laWXo0bcU
I went to see Arlo Guthrie last night. Very good show. I'm exhausted after all the music discussion yesterday!!! I actually agree with your comments, but I still need the clock hrs, so I plan to analyze my guts out. I promise NOT to share it here, someone might hurl. She's (the instructor) gonna love Daddy Jung by the time I get done
My show review. Poor Arlo he was a little tired last night, and he's only recently widowed... I wish him well out there in touring land. Taking a day off today. Everyone is.
I thought of Jung's onion today. I had a Reece's peanut butter cup today. It sat in ten paper cupcake papers.
I took a walk with dog-pog again today in the woods. Actually, she pulled me. It was lovely. The sky was blue and the temps were in the 70s. We walked along the stretch of parkway I used to frequent when I was new here, about 25 years ago. I recognized the spot where I realized I couldn't run in these-har hills, being a flatlander. The most exquisite part of the trip was approaching an overpass. It had a big, muddy puddle under it. The sun was hitting it just right to form the most exquisite image of interference on the ceiling. In all my years teaching physics, I never saw such a grand display of interference. I took dog-pog back to admire it. There was even a single-slit. The constructive and destructive interference were in perfect focus 10' or so above the puddle. Unlike apparatus used to make waves in the lab, patterns formed as water dropped from the roof, but the wave fronts were not all of the same thickness. I was mesmerized. Yes, I was capturevated by it. I stared long, and dog-pog respected my need for reverence.
I also thought about poor Amy's song. She told of breaking every commandment in the book. The 10 Commandments, I thought, foster harmony in human relationships. The lyrics to Amy's song made a Dm7 in my mind.
Hmmm m I just read a really good article about this same thing.... I'll try to find it.
I found a GREAT photo of wave slit interference!!!! Out in the Indian Ocean somewhere there's a former Army post................ actually this is Diego Garcia, I lived there for a year. Sometimes I go back to see it on Google maps..... if you look about 7 degrees south of the Equator right down south of the tip of India, you'll find it on the extreme zoom in (Chagos Archipelago) .... it looks like a foot, we called it the "Footprint of Freedom" heheeh yea I know hokey.... but if you look between the "toes" which are little islands at the north end of the caldera, you'll see the double wave slit stuff going on...........
I was gobsmacked!!!! It's so perfect to show in science class too.
Then I checked Loch Ness on Google Maps but couldn't find that Nessie photo, only some wave interference from boats. My that's one huge geological formation.
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