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Love songs with absolutely no psychobabble.
July 10, 2018
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I've always admired fools, disparaged and outcast for seeing beyond what the crowd wants them to see; like turtles, daring to stick their heads out of their protective shells. I always thought 'twas noble to see the sun going down and knowing the world was really revolving around it (at least from Occam's perspective).

I once had a friend tell me people like to be ahead of their time, but it does them no good. It is important to be on-time, or nobody will understand. Maybe a handful of people, me among them, did not regard this guy as a fool, for this and many heartfelt insights he tried to share.

I love 'Foolish Love' for the minor key, the chords, the knockout backup instrumentation, the lyrics, the imagery, and the memories. I didn't even think of suffering in those words, except for the part about, "remember how we cried out loud, heard angry voices shout." That was hard, but I supposed there was going to be friction in just about any close relationship. I thought Justin was singing about a beautiful and glorious relationship, running through the summer fields. That was before the last few tick seasons, of course.

Anyway, I have loved this song ever since it played in the background of what I think was a record store. I was probably about 5. There was a guy who stood in the doorway and had a certain attitude. In retrospect, I think he was stoked on cocaine, but I make no pretense to be a noble fool, it's just a blind ambition.

July 10, 2018
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P.S. Somebody told me lately Paul can't sing anymore. Is that true? So sad.

July 11, 2018
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I have heard some recent stuff from Paul and his voice sounded a little rough. He never thought of himself as a hot singer, from what I've read. I liked his voice. I don't like him when he flaps his lips open about American politics. I don't flap my jaws about English politics because I don't understand it.

I was thinking about "Foolish Love" today and thinking I was probably wrong to say what I said.... after all it's just a song. A snapshot of a brief moment of time perhaps. I have no idea what Justin's love life is like. I would be upset if my husband wrote something like that for me.

Which I think is where I was coming from with this. My Ex used to say things, sorta put downs like "boy we were stupid to get married" rather than finding something uplifting between us. It was difficult to live with and ultimately why I left... because I want uplift, not "foolish" or other negative words about something very sacred and very important (or it was to me anyway.) Also I grew up with a man who was "all male" but at the same time he didn't understand his women folk were sensitive to the toxic quality of his utterances. Long story, sorry to vent.

It's just a song.

Here's an interesting take too.... not sure who wrote this (a member of 10cc) but I heard an interview with him about this song, and he said "I'm madly passionately in love with my wife.... it's just a song" or words to that effect... like it was shyness that made him say the opposite. I think a mature relationship gets past that "opposite" meaning in intimacy, that hiding behind frightened/frightening words or actions. But listen to the melody in this song. It's beautifully, caressing, kind, lovely, slow, intimate.... "Foolish Love" sounds angry to me, even though the music is fantastic of course.....

In fact they opened Guardians of the Galaxy with this song... and it was perfect for the moment.... very sad. A new spin on a very famous song

July 11, 2018
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I guess the Fool on the Hill was supposed to be the Maharishi or some such. It's about someone they don't understand (and they don't like the unknown) who is going WAY over everyone's head... and they call him a fool............ KissConfusedWink

Ray and Mike played on Fool on the Hill, I've heard. Allegedly that is Ray on the bass flute on that track. Cool.

July 12, 2018
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One need not be a Maharishi to be a fool; one needs only to say what he thinks the crowd expects.

I did not know that about Mike & Ray.

"Fool on the Hill," "Michelle," "Eleanor Rigby," and "Penny Lane" were all great songs in my opinion. (Those songs came out in the days of AM radio, so the lyrics don't count in the analysis.) The piccolo trumpet (I've always referred to it as a clarion call, but never thought much about it until now.) on the latter of course, was recalled with "Foolish Love."

A great thing about art is its ability to evoke different stories in different people.

I hesitate to analyze anything by Justin, but --

In my mind, foolish love is a love that other people don't understand. Maybe their parents yelled at them and told them their love was only foolish. They ran through the summer fields. The lady gracefully fell into Justin's arms, and it was beautiful and glorious, like riding on a wave (what we all feel during our 2-second photo ops with Justin). Something happened to separate them physically, but he loves her as he loved her then, and he never let her go; that is, he's still emotionally attached.

I get confused when he sings about looking behind and seeing the road of life turning to loved ones. That much makes sense that they aren't together, but they were. Looking back, they get closer together. But he says salvation is in sight as he sees what was in the past. I sort of associate salvation with a permanent state of bliss. One does not talk about being saved in the way back when. Then again, the album is 'Strange Times,' so maybe the song needed some anachronism and he changed a word in a trite phrase - like "take you down to heaven below." Maybe the first thought was, "... as we look ahead ..." It would be even messier if he said, "And now as we look behind, to see the road unwind, turning to the ones we love," because it would rhyme and straighten out when it was curving. Right?

Well, that's what I hear in the song. I cannot say which mythological characters (back to Aristotle) he is imitating.

July 12, 2018
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That said, the song takes me back - to my apartment in Hendersonville, to the summer Strange Times tour, and to the Moodies' Christmas party. Don't ask.

July 12, 2018
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One more thing on the fool on the hill as I try desperately to avoid work: Whenever a surveyor asks if I think the country is headed in the right direction ... I mean if we were headed west, that would be tectonically cataclysmic, no?

July 12, 2018
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I just figured "Foolish Love" was about Justin's wife. End of analysis.

It took me a long time to understand salvation (I think I do anyway) it's being at peace with whatever used to really bug you, with whatever made your life miserable. By which, salvation may or may not be lasting, and you might have to achieve it again.

Shrug. Just a song, and I turn down all analysis of it.

July 13, 2018
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I never analyzed it until I tried to answer questions here. I'm simple and I like to just like things because I like them. Does a strong Em chord at the beginning of a song cause the little organs that release dopamine to oscillate such that output is increased, or does it constrict or otherwise deform the reuptake receptors?

I think I wrote here before about the struggle I had when all about me convinced me we were only meat machines. Tesla suggested it, and the little girl I was babysitting at the time was so good at imitation and not doing anything original. Creativity, I postulated, was merely the output of crossed circuits in the chaos resulting from too many inputs to track. I prayed in anguish for some evidence of meaning in life.

My parents came to town to visit. They had me staying at their motel for whatever reason. One night, I had a dream and I could hear voices and stuff. I was teaching at the community college at the time, and between jobs, I passed some roadkill. In the classrooms, the students had asked me to help them with a problem their physics teacher had given them. I had the work all over the board, and I got stuck. Back then, my big, fat ego was too enormous to deal with getting stuck - plus, I was nauseated by the roadkill. And so, I passed out. As I lied on the floor with my feet up, my dream was being played out in the real world. It was the "sign" I needed that there was maybe a plan or something more to life than input/output.

I do enjoy analysis, though. It's something to do as I stand around waiting, as I do most of my life. This morning, again, I watched the wave pattern on the river as The EVO! cooled her paws and lapped. I recalled how it was easier to analyze water in polar coordinates instead of Cartesian coordinates, and put that together with the former observation that waves at the macroscopic level are pulses derived from thresholds. Water must accumulate to the point it can rise over a stone, and when it goes, it takes a slug with it, requiring a moment of time to fill back to the threshold before the next packet flows.

I also tried to reverse-engineer Asiana's curry - requesting a window seat and staring intently at each dot of spice.

Music and poetry, however, don't really lend themselves to interpretation in my mind. I either like them or I don't. If an emotion is triggered, regardless of what the words say or what was intended, that's good. The same goes with paintings. They're either beautiful or not. I have no room in my little brain to entertain disturbing art. I'm also laughably symbol-impaired. I have to be trained; viz., this motif conjures humor. It's like one time when I was out of the country and sitting in church. The girl who was my translator, rather than going word-for-word at one point, just said, "It's a joke. Laugh."

July 14, 2018
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That was an enjoyable post.... I'm sorry about you passing out. (If I were a psychologist, I would pick at the precipitating events, but I'm not, I'm your friend just chatting.) Yes on one level we ARE meat machines, but if that is ALL then it's super super complex. You must take care of the machine for the mind to have a home and place to be.

I think it's the lazy cosmologist who says "it is all explained by science, even if we don't understand it"... because we DON'T understand it all. I can't imagine a world where it IS all just science, and "just happened" things like evolution, chemical interactions that go with life, coincidences. It seems so cold and lonely if we ARE just all meat machines. Possibly the pushing of this perspective in our classrooms is what has made our children such hardened little fiends. So few have a joy in life, they are either stressing out doing everything our schools throw at them (far too much IMHO) or they rebel completely and do nothing, or become behavior issues.

Yes I think there is more to us as people than just mechanics. I remember in Biology in high school, I understood everything (purpose meaning etc) EXCEPT the Electron Transport Chain, now known as the Kreb's Cycle (and there are a few other anaerobic similar processes too, within the mitochondria) "It just works" said my instructor, who was actually a very nice smart teacher, and I think he didn't understand it himself. We knew it worked, but not HOW.

Fast forward through my life, which led me to become an electron pusher, to understand the relationship between electromagnetic forces. I know WHAT causes magnetism, I don't know WHY. Principle of FM (freaking magic)......... fast forward to me getting a teaching endorsement in Biology, taking Microbiology (mind blowing) and I finally make the connection. The Kreb's cycle is an electro-chemical process, like a rotating generator creates electricity from motion and magnetism.

This was hecku profound. Can I say that again? IT WAS LITERALLY A LIGHTBULB GOING ON. Wow.... what "higher order" engineer figured THAT out???

Same as when I got to the micro level and found that cells behave like batteries (chemical polarity makes Magnesium, Calcium and Potassium all move, thus again creating an electrical current) then I learned more about phages... which are instruments of genetic engineering. Who the heck created all this stuff????? Did it just "happen"????? Did it "just happen" only once in the entire galaxy, in the universe??? There's a lot of stars out there!!!!

I have no answers. It's just mind numbing to believe it all happened by trial and error. There is some purpose to this. There has to be. Too many coincidences ... to quote Sherlock Holmes "there is no such thing as coincidence"

I was happy I could still go to a creative level when I did these costumes two weeks ago... long story but you design on a very deep level, then refine it once it comes out. Like a song. Like any art. And my grandson... he shows signs of "being so much more than a little boy who can be trained like Pavlov's dogs" ......... as most people raise their children. He was riding along, we were just talking and he says "We always talk about interesting of stuff" and I do, I talk about all sort of things while driving, I'm always teaching. His mind is like a sponge, absorbs it all.

How the heck did he start singing like he does? He's not even 7 yet! He even has a nice tremolo. I have to teach him harmonies next. He can have a guitar when he's old enough to not whack his sister with it!!!!

"You're magnetic Ink!!!"Laugh

July 15, 2018
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It's not posting. Hmm.

July 17, 2018
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Unable to find a love song about essay-writing, I find this one totally sane:

July 20, 2018
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July 20, 2018
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I must look up lyrics before I post. I had one with a good chorus, but the rest was - Whoops!

July 20, 2018
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I thought I had another one, but it got all possessive and controlling. Maybe in a day or two I'll have one.

July 21, 2018
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July 21, 2018
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I love robins. They are my friends.

The EVO! and I heard a dog singing today. His only lyric was, "Arf!" but it was melodic, in a major key quite accessible, and it swung. For awhile, he was going Renaissance. I was singing along with his refrains, but I've forgotten them. Dogs don't do psychobabble, do they?

Is this a fair sentiment?

July 22, 2018
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Dogs and wolves indeed sing. If you ever come to the PacNW, there is a place near Tenino WA called "Wolf Haven" they take in wolves who have no where else to go and can't be released into the wild (like former pets, that sort of thing) Zoos have population problems. Anyway in the evenings, when it's cool and nice, sometimes the wolves all sing. They are in different runs, but they still are social... quite lovely to be caught in the middle of all that. Most awesome song of nature.

On the subject, NOW we get to talk about alligator serenades. I didn't know this... dialed in BBC America the other day, they are always running nature shows (David Attenbourough et al) and they documented bull alligator songs... these are the large left over dinosaurs that occupy swamp lands in Alabama, Georgia and Florida. It involved Faraday waves.... I knew you'd be interested. I sure was.

https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.3587858

Very cool with earphones

July 22, 2018
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I didn't catch the Faraday waves, but the water dance is cool. (I'd post, "Do you love me, now that I can dance," except that is highly dysfunctional, no?)

Walking The EVO! this morning, we heard birds, which I often do, that reminded me of Dvorak's Fifth Symphony, Fourth Movement. My memory is bad. I can remember the fingering, but not the position (violin). We did an abridged version. It went 5125125125125 3 (with a tremolo on the 3). Making matters worse, I sang piano fingering in my head as I learned violin pieces, 1 was an open string.

I loved the song when we played with the band for the full orchestra. It was most inspiring. Anyway, I remember being disappointed when our orchestra teacher said Dvorak had pulled together slave spirituals from the New World for the symphony. Not that there's anything depressing about slavery to bring down a majestic composition. Besides giving away the meaning of a song is always sure to disappoint, right?

So, anyway, in this part of the country, there are these birds who sing the 5125125125125, but this was the first time I heard them singing with birds that trilled on the 3. The emulation of the symphony and thinking I'd heard what Dvorak had brought a smile to the face.

I'm sitting here listening to Dvorak, waiting for the part in question to come around ... tra la la ... The YouTube either skipped or I slept through the critical portion. My guess is the notes were CEGCEGCEGC G#. I'm feeling tone-deaf, among other things today.

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