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LOTS of composers snitch things from bird song. Right now I'm thinking of the opening to Rites of Spring... George Gershwin also snitched melodies from the Black community, Blues and honky tonk music. Jazz.
Slave spirituals came from Africa, they are simply folk tunes which made it over on the ship. While the poor devils were laying there chained to the deck (having been sold into slavery by warlords in Africa), they had to do something to keep from going nuts, so they sang. Native American, Scots and African all melded in the old South, to the point that it's difficult to nail which came from where. One day we will let go of the past and celebrate the future and the NOW.... I can't mourn over how my ancestors died of TB and in poverty, or being shot in battle by English or White Men. Slavery was horrible, but the music was the seed bursting up from the muck... and it endures. Spirituals became hip hop, the Blues and rock and Roll....
Caged Bird
By Maya Angelou
A free bird leaps
on the back of the wind
and floats downstream
till the current ends
and dips his wing
in the orange sun rays
and dares to claim the sky.
But a bird that stalks
down his narrow cage
can seldom see through
his bars of rage
his wings are clipped and
his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.
The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.
The free bird thinks of another breeze
and the trade winds soft through the sighing trees
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn bright lawn
and he names the sky his own
But a caged bird stands on the grave of dreams
his shadow shouts on a nightmare scream
his wings are clipped and his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.
The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.
I heard the following two songs this morning.
This is a nice song, absent the antagonist. The good guys are at least without psychobabble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL8OIY05QC0
But if we're making a case of my mental unfitness, I nominate this for exemplary, well-adjusted romance:
LOL I always loved Love Potion #9 I was very young when that was a hit, and thought it was hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE-HZ8fwN0M&feature=share
This one is awesome! I grew up on Fats Waller (my mom loved Harlem Reinaissance singers and musicians) had never seen this video. Isn't it wonderful??? LOL.
That sounds good.
When I think of a song that might be nice, I look up the words, and I find control again. "Be mine!" "I want you!" Your selection I like because it's just two dogs enjoying each other's company. I could learn a lot from Miss EVO!, her loyalty, willingness to please, willingness to submit to weirdness. She's a brilliant herding master cast in the role of lapdog. Her talents go unnoticed.
I still can't find a good song. I find one with a good refrain, and then the control part steps in. I never considered myself much of a lyrics person, but I'm beginning to see another reason to absol-tutely adore Justin Hayward music. It lacks the element of, "I want to own you, I want to control you, I want you to do my bidding, say this, do that."
For example, I was listening to Dionne Warwick this morning singing, "I Say a Little Prayer for You." That's a sweet thought. Then, she started singing about "together forever" and her heart breaking if her beloved were to leave. It was pushing the envelope, but still within bounds. In a lot of songs, it's hard for me to tell if somebody is just saying they would be sad or trying to use their sadness as a manipulative tool. One might say "together forever" is fine for married couples, but if we're talking about a fan's ambitions for a rock star - I can still get it to work in my mind. 100 years from now, hopefully I'll be good enough to go to heaven. With eternity to go, I would hope Justin would drop by my cloud from time to time to say hello. That leads to the, "It wouldn't be heaven without you" lyric which, as a statement is fine, but as a manipulator is not. I'm being pedantic.
Anyway, the song was going almost good enough for a post, and then there was the final bit:
My darling, believe me [command and control]
For me there is no one, but you
Please love me, too [command and control]
I'm in love with you
Answer my prayer [command and control]
Say you love me, too [command and control]
Why don't you answer my prayer? [command and control]
You know, every day I say a little prayer
I said, I say, I say a little prayer.
Now that I post it, I'm wondering if the whole song isn't a prayer for him to do her bidding and be in love with her. That's the punchline. Here, all my life I thought she was saying, "Please bless so-and-so with love and comfort. Give him the insight and strength he needs to meet his goals for the day, ...."
That's the challenge of prayer. Are you asking God (or the Holy Ghost) for something for you?
Or are you asking for something for someone else?
Is it something you want or need? (Or think you need) is it something to relieve another's pain? Would Mother Teresa approve?
To quote Jim Morrison "You cannot petition the Lord with prayer" Do you think you can control the situation with prayer?
Prayer to me is... sending out good vibes, aimed at someone or a situation, and perhaps getting an answer back about something. Like I was thinking about a yellow tee shirt I need to find and buy. I walked around a corner and a woman was wearing one. A minute later (I was in a grocery store) I saw a kid with a yellow tee. A little weird.
I just like the song to "I Say a Little Prayer" Burt Bacharach....
lunazure said That's the challenge of prayer. Are you asking God (or the Holy Ghost) for something for you?
One cannot pray away another's agency, and one ought not try. When I paid attention to Hal David's lyrics in a song I've always enjoyed, I got creeped. It reminded me of Mr. Stalker. He did not view me as another person, but as something he owned and could define and shape to his purposes. It is really scary when one encounters another person who has so little respect for other human lives. I encounter it a lot at work, in bosses. One just rolls with the punches or joins the masses of homeless people. I was lucky to be paid to pursue truth for 15 years. I shouldn't complain.
I pray to God, and if I were to pray that the Holy Ghost would abound ------ I think I will.
lunazure said Or are you asking for something for someone else?
It is essential to want, but I want to want the right things. When that is what I want, and for what I pray, it is to everybody's advantage.
lunazure said Is it something you want or need? (Or think you need) is it something to relieve another's pain? Would Mother Teresa approve?
I don't know Mother Teresa that well. I like what she did, and I often think I would have been happy to take a similar course in life - except I would need to chase Justin around the countryside, too.
I'm not a fan of vows of poverty, the idea that one can magnify one's own righteousness by letting others step all over them. My actions may indicate otherwise, and that's only because I'm not very assertive. However, when one lets others be evil, one is not showing consideration for their souls; one is not loving or valuing the person they let run roughshod in a non-victimless situation.
I think it is good to pray that the hearts of people who are hurting others will be softened and that they will stop. (Now, we're going back to the noninitiation of force principle. Once somebody initiates force, defense may be justified.)
An unrighteous prayer would be, "I want Justin to love me." Justin's the master of his own mind. It would be demonic of me to set up shop in his mind and start calling shots on this and that. It sounds crazy, but for Hal David to write those lyrics - likely as a joke, a clever punchline - still gives me the woollyburgers. Mr. Stalker thought he could have my mind and will for the asking. How creepy is that? Ew. Ew. Ew. The world would be mad and fickle and so nonsensical there would be no point in creation.
One might use the Golden Rule in praying for others. If somebody out there is praying, "I want Leslee to be a programmable android to do my bidding," am I really going to want to get close to them? I trow not.
lunazure said To quote Jim Morrison "You cannot petition the Lord with prayer" Do you think you can control the situation with prayer?
I disagree with Jim. That is the definition of prayer. Maybe I need some context and you and Jim are telling me I am so far-gone there is no hope left. I usually pray for things beyond my control - like getting me to a Moody Blues concert on-time, helping me get good tickets to a show, helping me not crash the car whilst driving back to work in a sleep-deprived state. I pray for health for people when I know they're hurting. I pray for emotional and physical burdens to be lightened when I find out about them or suspect them. Often, I forget to pray.
lunazure said Prayer to me is... sending out good vibes, aimed at someone or a situation, and perhaps getting an answer back about something. Like I was thinking about a yellow tee shirt I need to find and buy. I walked around a corner and a woman was wearing one. A minute later (I was in a grocery store) I saw a kid with a yellow tee. A little weird.
It could be attention bias, then again, maybe God wanted you to buy the shirt from one of them. It would be OK for me to pray for you to get the yellow T-shirt, God willing. He may have greater plans - like a lime green T. I don't know.
I ramble, ramble, ramble and don't say anything. Then, I type about rambling, etc.
lunazure said I just like the song to "I Say a Little Prayer" Burt Bacharach....
I'm looking for the "like" button.
I had an epiphany today. In light of the discovery that almost 90% of love songs talk about owning other people, I thought maybe I was wrong. I realized if I were charitable, intellectual, charming, hard-working, and all that, people would probably be begging me to beg them to be mine.
Imagine Mother Teresa singing, "Be my little baby, Be my baby, now." Now, imagine me singing it. Yikes! Big difference.
Having aged without paying much attention to lyrics, I'm finding a preponderance of songs that have caught my attention musically have very selfish and self-important lyrics. They're all about taking and not giving. Love is a many splendered thing, or so the song goes. I said before it just happens. However, I also like the adage, "Love isn't love 'til it's given away." In that sense, all these lyricists are no better than me, obsessed with their Justins and being unable to do anything to make his life better.
This one at least acknowledges the other person has a life and feelings, but it still makes demands; viz., let me be there - which is great if both people like each other. (This may have been the video after which somebody said, "Teach that girl some dance steps.")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB2cY-8xFdI
As we are, this is what I think of Justin. It's inappropriate, so I have to pretend like I want to go home after concerts, like I don't want to rush the stage, etc.
Justin, I'm sure, is like, "Whatever."
I seem to recall Rand saying "Love is the exception)
IE all is fair in love. Some people are quite possessive indeed when it comes to relationships, and if it suits them, they are welcome to it. I was never good at being my Ex's property, which was a source of contention since he seemed to feel I should be, and then turned around and did things any way he felt like it with no consideration for me or the relationship. Ie if he wanted to own me, then I owned him and he really needed to shut up and listen to reason a little more. Or at least try to hear out my logic in how to do something.
When we grow up and get past our self centered-ness many things become much clearer.
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