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July 15, 2014
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I'm with him on the portals to other dimensions.......... don't ask me how, but it makes sense, That's how UFOs get here, they dive into the center of the atom, and come out wormholes in other parts of existence.

I don't know how other people think, but when I get tired, sometimes yes it's a huge jumble. Or the lights just start going out.... I used to just keep jammin' when I was tired, and got weird. NOW I shut down, wink off. Not sure what happened there. Maybe my adrenal gland is getting old or something.

July 16, 2014
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I used to see cosmic connections between math and the social studies when I would pull an all-nighter. I could never remember what I was thinking after a little sleep. I assume it is like those dreams that are funny until you wake up.

I cannot buy into the portal bit, as there is too much speculation for me, and I'm not FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELING it. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm more into simple stuff, like Newton's prismes.

July 16, 2014
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Well it's all gotta come from SOMEWHERE.

Why not alien portals?

July 16, 2014
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Admitting no more than is necessary and sufficient, electrons and protons are inverse force-fields of mass and charge. You can build stuff with that, but I don't know where trying to travel through an electron will get you. I'm reading economics again. I want to get back to the prismes.

July 17, 2014
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I like the sorts of articles where they claim there is only one electron in the whole universe, but it moves around so fast that we think there are a whole bunch of them.

What if it were true? Quite mind bending.... that one little electron, moving super fast through time and space............

An area you probably don't delve into often is that of electron potential in the human body, things like atoms moving in and out of cells due to potential.... calcium, potassium pumps, that sort of thing. The more I've gotten into celluar biology/chemistry, the more my mind is blown. I never understood the Kreb's cycle until I became an electrician....

July 18, 2014
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No. I haven't organized my priorities to go back to school and study biochemistry, or even go higher than 200-level chemistry. I've tutored a couple people fairly recently, and I was surprised to see they were still teaching stuff as we learned it. I was sure atomic modeling would have become more complex with computers and all. The instructional medium has changed, but not the message.

You are starting to get me. I'm a simpleton who seeks unification - up to where it makes sense. When you start trying to combine everything into a single force, you have to get really crazy to explain a dynamic universe that doesn't wind down. I use science to simplify things for understanding and application. Many use science for cash flow, so they have to keep it arcane and fascinating. The problem of string theory, when I last left it a couple decades ago, is it had a special case for everything. There is no point to a theory if it cannot identify patterns. I don't have to publish; I perished long, long ago.

July 18, 2014
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I word-processed that last paragraph to death, didn't I?

July 18, 2014
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I don't know, did you?

I never could buy into string theory... as you said, too many "special" cases. :P

Intuitively there should be an ultimate balance to the Universe, so if that's the case, there is no such thing as "wind down" without a "wind up"........ Asimov wrote a very fun short story about "how to reverse entropy" I'd have to look it up, but he published it in *Opus 100* I suspect the "wind down" is like "global warming" if you look at a snap shot of a long term process, you're bound to get a distorted view of it.

I taught the Bohr atom model in 8th grade science, but a couple of little darlings never got it. Several turned in the usual "planets revolving around a nucleus" like you see in old Superman comics. Asking them about electrons leaping between potential levels was utterly beyond their grasp......... even if you tried to explain that was how fireworks worked. Where light comes from. I found out a very frightening thing, having that class for six months. At least half of the population resents having to be in a science class, at any age. Science scares a lot of people. Never mind we are surrounded by it, tech, engineering etc........... their pea brains can't grasp anything beyond their romantic needs, or driving a car, or getting drunk.

(shrug) Once you get over being upset by "non tech" minds surrounding us, you can learn to be a much happier person. :) Onward!!!

PS I am rather happy to see the concept of STEM show up in classrooms, but it won't make any difference in the long run I don't think.

July 19, 2014
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In honor of the Apollo Moon landing anniversary on Sunday (my goodness.... 45 years?) I plan to watch The Dish and enjoy the day. And........... oh yes there's a Moodies song in it. Laugh

July 19, 2014
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and some more fun stuff for the weekend. Live long and prosper.

September 5, 2015
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Tuesday, Sept 9 will be the anniversary of Galileo looking through his telescope for the first time.... I think CS Lewis freaks, cosmologists and astronomers will all enjoy this link.

http://www.examiner.com/articl.....os?cid=rss

http://www.brainpickings.org/2.....fect-time/

September 9, 2015
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Justin keeps saying he hopes he understands the lyrics of the two songs from the dark period by the end of whatever tour. I think "You Can Never Go Home" is very cosmological, but surely that wasn't the angle he took. I'm gonna analyze it even though Justin says he tries not to, as he's been big enough to handle my toxic inanity, and people were trying to tell him thoughts they could not defend before I ever came along.

Justin said

I don't know what I'm searching for,
I never have opened the door.

I don't know for what I search, either. That is a little more despondent than most, who know what they want, but they search how to realize it. Whenever I pray for an answer, I'm told I write my own script, and I reply I'm too cowardly for that. The question, however, is totally cosmological. The next two lines indicate (to me) Justin is more self-actualized than I and willing to throw everything away to do what he must, if he could only know it is what he must. On to the cosmology.

Justin said

But time will tell of stars that fell,
A million years ago.

Of course. Stars are so very far apart. We would call them suns if not so. So there's Alpha Centauri, our nearest neighbor at 4.34 light years away. (I had to look that up.) It will take 4.34 years for us to get the EM signal about that star falling. Since nobody has found the edge of the universe, a million years is not an inordinate amount of time for light from a star that loses its trajectory and goes rogue to reach the earth. I think we're going back to your astronomy lectures, luna.

Justin said

Memories can never take you back,
Home, sweet, home.

This is a mind-bender. Memories obviously can't transport physical people, and yet they kind of accomplish the same thing. One can reconstruct the emotion, but the power to ment is absent. This gets into philosophy about spirit vs. matter. Why do we have all this matter if we are supposed to be spiritual? Is the matter maya, or are we supposed to use our physicals to shape matter in messages of love? I have no clue.

Justin said

You can never go home any more.

This is so, because you can go to the same geocordinates, but the Milky Way will be in a totally different part of the universe. Even if things look the same on earth, people will either have moved out or in, or changed their character entirely.

Justin said

All my life I never really knew me till today.
Now I know I'm just another step along the way.

Back when the song was written, people were searching for their identities, even though identity theft did not proliferate until this century. Joking aside, this goes back to line upon line, precept upon precept. You cannot learn calculus if you cannot understand math. Whatever you seek would blow your mind and you would not recognize it if you didn't have the groundwork. My old boss Charlie liked to tell of such an experience. He lapsed into a deeply meditative state where he knew he could get the answer to anything he asked, but he was so dumbfounded by it all, he knew not where to begin.

Justin said

I'm just waiting for the sun,
When the journey we are making has begun.

We're back into astronomy. It sounds like they're going to get to work now that the sun's up. Note also Mole also is, "burrowing his way to the sunlight. He knows there's someone there so strong." Let's skip ahead.

Justin said

High above the forests,
Lie the pastures of the sun,

So now, it seems the journey may have been to the sun instead of just a daylight terrestrial jaunt. The imagery reminds me of a cool picture I once saw of concentric globes. The sky of one was below the earth of the next. It was very beautifully done and for years was one of my favorite paintings. But figuratively, it sounds like he speaks of a brighter place with peaceful pastures, or heaven.

Justin said

Where the two that learned the secret now are one.

To this, I'll revert to other lyrics like "give just a little bit more, take a little bit less" and "all the love you've been giving has all been meant for you." The secret of becoming one is for each to do what one believes is right, not keeping score. Either that, or he's talking about making babies. Can I say that?

It is uncertain, but it is possible that "here" refers to "the sunlight" for Mole.

Justin said

Cos here there's lot of room for doing
The thing you've always been denied
Look and gather all you want to
There's no one here to stop you trying

Soon you will see me
Cos I'll be all around you
But where I come from I can't tell
But don't be alarmed by my fields and my forests
They're here for only you to share

So once again, we seem to have fields and forests up in the sky, in the bright sunlight, in some kind of heaven, or perhaps just some form of individual temporal freedom. The part of soon seeing "me" all around you reminds me of a spiritual experience so strong, I believed I saw "The Spirit" in every surrounding, scintillating molecule. That's how I'd interpret it, 'cos it's so powerful personally.

Justin said

Weep no more for treasures,
You've been searching for in vain,
'cos the truth is gently falling with the rain.

That goes back to the material world and the worth of things one cannot take with them. Truth, at least according to the catechism to which I subscribe, may be taken with you. This truth isn't stark or cruel, it's just there, all around, and nice. It rhymes better than, "'cos the truth is all around us in the air."

Justin said

Don't deny the feeling,
That is stealing through your heart,
Every happy ending needs to have a start.

To me, that has always referred back to the feeling I get when I discover truth. We can't hold it up and share it with others, but we need to trust it. "Don't quench the spirit," is another way of putting it. I think Justin is using it here because he and she are in love and he knows it's true and she does, but she's afraid to admit it. This goes back to "Never Comes the Day."

Justin said

Admit what you're feeling
And see what's in front of you,
It's never out of your sight.
You know it's true,
We all know that it's true

September 13, 2015
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I've had several cringy feelings after that last post. It is creepy to be doing exegesis on Justin Hayward lyrics; especially since I think William Shakespeare (or Sir Francis Bacon if you prefer) is over analyzed. Some songs hit me like zingers, as many on the Sur la Mer album did. They just resonate stunningly with things I was going through at the time. They still evoke strong emotions. I like to take music that way.

But also after I wrote that, I started realizing how lyrics in the songs mentioned above repeat in other Justin lyrics. What it all means, nobody knows. But I must admit I keep catching myself after that post pondering about the forests above the sun and all.

October 3, 2015
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Overthinking it all.

I'm reading Bill Bryson's biography on Shakespeare right now. All this "Shakespeare didn't write it, someone else did" (including Bacon) he traces back to the origin and refutes quite well. The bit about Bacon writing Shakespeare's plays traces back to one loony toon woman who was a recluse and published her own internal dialog about it. Jesus and Shakespeare are two historical people that for some bizarre reason, it seems "open season" on to say "they never existed" I don't know why. They seem like real enough people to me, who left an interesting word trail.

Evoking strong emotions which we have no power to stop.... which overwhelm us, over throw us.... is this a good thing? I haven't figured it out yet.

I certainly don't like being victim to my out of control emotions.

Corral de Cielo..... Pastures of the Sky........... of the Sun... Pastures of Heaven ........ dreamy tone, doesn't that sound lovely???

October 4, 2015
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Hey, I'm a mental midget and spiritual vacuum compared to the typical Moodies fan. I'm just trying to start a discussion, and failing at that, too.

When I was wee, me mum often told me people never give anybody credit for being smarter than them. (The subtle irony was the next topic of discussion.) Ergo, if Shakespeare was a brilliant playwright and Jesus spoke unassailable wisdom while raising the dead -

At least I know enough to know whatever I say is going to be wrong, but moving asymptotically toward truth is part of the human experience, me thinks.

Oh, yes. I vote for being overwhelmed with, dare we say, the Spirit. I had a marvelous dream once, possibly induced by eating too many fresh South Carolina peaches, that I was about to be baptized in fire - spiritual fire, that is. I resisted because I doubted the authority of the ladies who were my guides. To this day, I regret not going through with it. That's part of why Matthew West's "The Motions" speaks to me with so much power.

Now, here I sit, a disappointing schmuck, eating and paying bills and taxes.

October 6, 2015
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One should never descend into self pity.

There is always something interesting out there to find more about after all.

Your mom was very wise, I like that. We ALL can remember that at times.

October 9, 2015
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I think his name starts with a J.

October 11, 2015
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Hey I have most of the written report up of going to st. Louis and on through to Napa.....

http://illaheematters.yuku.com.....hqcZisqiUQ

if you pan down through that, you'll find links for each show. Some are not Moody related. leslee you might enjoy the Cahokia links.

I'm going to do the last written wrap up today, then fix the riding mower (I think I can I think I can) then start cleaning up the photos. I got photos sorted last night at least. Most of the shows blurred sadly, but some is left. The photo police let up after St. Louis more or less, thankfully. And yes I did get a picture of the shark in Solana Beach.....

ok later, busy day ahead............

October 11, 2015
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I can't wait to see, but I'll have to. The Internet went down at work, so I was putting in 16-hour days here and then having to do computer stuff at home. It was deadline week. Once the computer came up, I was playing catch-up. Now, I'm feeling ill . . .

October 13, 2015
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That link isn't working........... yuku is having a melt down. Naturally I'd like to be self centered and think it's due to my putting up the link...

Laugh

more likely it's just doing period maintenance. OR it's entirely possible my computer has reached its quote of data transfer. MY site came up last night for a while and I did a few things, now this morning it's crashed again.

Yuku is pretty imperfect. It allegedly links to this site called Photobucket, from whence you can post your photography, but THAT always locks up my computer.... you have to go around it with URL links. Basically if it's free, you have to pay with a bazillion ads in your face.

Yea I'll try at work today too.

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