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April 3, 2014
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Something like that, yes.

April 3, 2014
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I thought you hacked the web site, luna. I kept saying 5 + 9 = 16. Waddup wi-dat?

April 4, 2014
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[soothing tone].............. it's only a dreeemmmm.........

Dream love is only in a dream, remember
Remember life is never as it seems, dreams dreams................

(Nilsson)

now no more non sequiturs about bunnies and weird Germans. Ever read Bertold Brecht? He was a dirty old guy with a cigar who wrote really odd German plays, part of the Dada movement. We did *Caucasian Chalk Circle* with one of the Doobie Brothers on the trash can band I think (Sonoma State, 1977) ......... man one weird show. There was an even earlier German play write, can't think of his name, but this German soldier is overdosing on green peas.............

Dada probably came about by some mistranslation. Germany did some odd things in the 1800s, unified the Lutheran church, but everyone kept on shooting each other anyway. THEN Dr. Freud came along to tell them what it all meant. Daddy Jung too.

Dreams dreams........

What you need is a good movie!!!

April 4, 2014
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One of my favorite books ever was Bertolt Brecht's "Galileo." I was just thinking about the "appeal to reason pebble" the other day, wishing I had one and that those around would know what playing with it was supposed to mean.

Oh, no, Doctor. You have me all wrong. What I need is to see my imaginary friend again. It won't be long.

But here's the weird part of my psychosis. I can't make my imaginary friend appear on-demand. I need a promoter to invite him . . . But, Doctor, do you suppose a bottle of Ha could help soothe my nerves?

April 4, 2014
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Wow you're further afield with Brecht than I am. I bow to your literary knowledge.... I've never had the courage to track down more Brecht. He was a creepy ol' dude. He stole the plot of Three Penny Opera from Hogarth anyway. (Beggar's Opera, it was English)

I thought of that play with the soldier and the peas. And it was beans. Woyzeck. Very very twisted as I recall. It's considered the beginning of the Impressionistic movement in Europe I think, and no doubt gave Dr. Freud some of his better ideas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woyzeck

We had to read that in Drama class, and boy did some of the wittier guys get mileage out of it. Really hideous. The Germans wrote some very warped stuff. Ever try reading the original Nutcracker? The ballet may be weird Christmas fare, but the book far outstrips it. I'm becoming more and more fascinated with the era of German history. My genealogy winds back through it..... Baron Munchausen, all that sort of thing. They must have been prescribing a lot of opium.

Why do German doctors always have this very strange warp to them??? Look no further than Woyzeck.

Galileo Galileo................. it moves it moves.........

April 5, 2014
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Pish, posh. I did not mean to insinuate my knowledge of one of the author's works implied intimate knowledge of all. I've only read through a few authors.

Yes, I admire the German archetype for its technical precision, but I let it scare me for its soullessness. As you know, I hate German music for its excess structure, predicatability, and lack of beauty and inspiration. I make an exception for the Scorpions. Name another German musician I might like.

April 5, 2014
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What dreams may come.........

Beethoven. I like him very much. OK your turn Sphinx!!! Smile

The German "coolness" does take getting used to. They and the British are the cold fish of the Universe in some ways.... of course once you delve into English culture, you figure it out (not that way a'tall). German is the same I think. I just don't know the language. And they ARE a bit snooty, it comes down through my family. Reserved. Not soulless.... weird tho.

I had to go back and review the topic. How interesting, that Dr. Freud and Jung of course started with dream therapy, and of course both German. I wish I had time to study German formally. So much interesting literature in German. Maybe one day I'll get to Vienna.

Well........... speaking of dreams, back to my wine making.......... talk about a MESS. Germans brewed their share of wine, but the French and Italians get all the credit....

April 6, 2014
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I challenge your geography on both counts.

I love Brits. Period . . . . . . . . . . .

German writing is good. That is, if you want a technical manual, or if you want somebody to repair something correctly, I wouldn't fault profiling to choose a German. Good theoretical and applied math comes out of that part of the world. Is it any wonder Austrian economics is the only branch that makes sense (to me)? But precision has its time and place. It should be applied to dead matter, not people. When you apply your clockwork weltanschauung to people, you get messed up. You must admit the human has a soul with free agency, or you look like you're naive and full of yourself. (You look like me, but I have other excuses.) Who was it that said, "All the brilliant American physicists I know are Czechoslovakian?"

April 6, 2014
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I dunno............... it's true that the Germans are usually more on task when it comes to the STEM thang (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math, it's a new buzz word) but it's a fallacy to attach it to any one culture. Mayans invented the zero, did you know that? Our number system comes from the world of Islam. People in American have just gotten butt lazy about teaching STEM in the lower grades, thus the dearth of American scientists. What can I say? (shrug) I could tell horror stories about math in the school room and shall refrain as I haven't had breakfast yet. ALL kids all nationalities/race are capable of learning good science, math etc. A large percentage just don't care. Sad.

Teachers are hired on their ability to make friends, not on their STEM ability or knowledge. THAT is a fact. You should see the cr** I have to fill out and references I have to track down to even turn in a job application.

In the behavioral sciences, we look for patterns. A good psychologist or therapist rarely attaches a "clockwork" label to any disorder, unless their paycheck is riding on it, because we too dislike pigeon-holes when it comes to people. We have things called IEP (Individual education program) in schools which lays out how a child needs to be dealt with when they run screaming down the hall, wander around aimlessly, or do something else which impedes the learning process. This is required by law more or less. Sometimes it involves giving them a gummy bear for good behavior all day. Sometimes it calls for restraining said child when they decided to kick a classmate. We try to keep it positive, but always safe,

Mostly when behavior is deemed to be a medical issue, and it's dangerous to leave unchecked, or medical insurance will pay the bill for the hour you spent listening to someone's sexual issues (which you secretly don't care about), you need to find a code in the DSM-V (or whatever edition they are on right now).

I don't counsel for a reason. Too much resistance. What you resist persists.

April 6, 2014
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I have a friend who taught in Germany, on an Army base. According to her, there was a nincompoop they couldn't fire because of the union. My great sister took an emergency teacher certification test in California and was told she scored too high. She also messed up one of her roommate's projects. Said roommate was pursuing a master's in education. She didn't realize my sister was an ultra-high genius, so she asked her to complete some puzzles so she could get a sense of the time required. Half a second, four milliseconds - Oops.

That's sister, not me. I had a boss pay for me to get a psychological exam. He deemed me learning disabled for not memorizing the five Paradox relational database manuals in one night, the same night my landlady told everybody I HAD to go to a barbecue - not that I could have performed the feat, anyway. That was when we learned that I was very good at taking tests. On interest tests, I score off the grid. A friend of mine who did personality profiles for corporation rah-rah retreats and stuff had to make a new category for my profile. I defined it. If I want to guess where the test wants me to land, I can put myself squarely in the middle. Okay, I was 50-50 and 49-51, missing one question somewhere. So, unless everybody is perfectly honest, I don't know what the point of all these psychological exams are. My mother lost her faith in psychology when, taking an undergraduate course as a music major, her prof insisted she master-minded the test and screwed it up because nobody gives the kind of answers she did. It was something to do with, if you prefer a car to a diamond ring you cannot prefer kittens to elephants because you have to like all big things or all little things. Then, there was the resident psychologist in the Fisher Building in downtown Detroit who gave all the secretaries who worked there the creeps. I was lucky. All my psychology profs were stable and likable. The moral of the story is, if I appear normal now and again, do not let your guard down. Everything I do, I do to get Moody Blues tickets off you. Did I just say that? More Ha, Vicar! Out d*** spot! Stop that beating noise. I am not mad! HERE ARE SOME CAPITAL LETTERS TO PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

What were we talking about?

April 6, 2014
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Oh, yes. I did a couple reports on the Maya. I was very much intrigued by ancient American civilizations. I would have been more so had they not grossed me out with their human sacrifices. Anyway, Mum had a book on the Maya with its cool number system. People think the zero looked like a spaceship, but I thought it looked more like a SuperDome. Today, I had this great epiphany that it is probably just the inverse color scheme for a Mayan nine.

As for teaching math, I think I told you about when I worked at the local community college. It was a great place to work, until they started trying to get accredited. Every day, the mail boxes would be stuffed with garbage on diversity and stuff. I finally filled out this stupid questionnaire with shocking language for the day. I taught physics. I did not teach white, black, and yellow physics. I did not teach boy math and girl physics. I encouraged kids to ask questions until they understood stuff. I was capable of explaining things multiple ways, as back then we were not strangled by programming. Anyway, I answered questions like "How shall we increase our diversity?" with "Send recruiters to gay bars." I marched my attitude about PC down to the dean's office, and despite the rules that it be anonymous, demanded he read it. He protested, reiterating the instructions. I repeated my request. As I walked down the hall, I heard this roaring noise from his office. We were math and science geeks. We were the ones who sat in the back row for touch-feely teacher development meetings putting rubber bands on our noses and razzing the TV screen.

April 6, 2014
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Not "are you mad" it should be "are you Hi-Mach?" **

Ah I know the feeling. I rarely tell them I have a Master's in that stuff............ it's more fun to watch them be silly with the diversity workshops, or better yet, nail them on fallacies. Often I just sit and sleep, a marvelous talent we all developed in the military, done of course while you're eyes are open. I miss those moments, with your friends in the back and rubber bands. There IS one really good workshop for this sort of thing called True Colors.... it's a bit like playing a card game. Quite fun actually!

http://truecolorsintl.com/about-us/

All those tests are a great way to make a living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) my "test designing" prof even said as much......... he was pretty blase about them himself, and he wrote them!!! hehe. Once in a while a prospective employer gets all excited about Praxis or CBEST or GRE so I trot out my scores and smile. I have a whole notebook full of them.

Good for your sister!!! Imagine the embarrassment if a KID blasted through it too fast! LOL (I've seen it done) the designer needed to go back to the drawing board.

Speaking of psych tests, I just found a really interesting article. Mind you I make no professional judgements here. It's just one more data point, and invokes the "two edged sword" paradigm. Enjoy yourself. :)

PS even if you aren't touchy feely, so many people feel better if you at least pretend, and then they work better. ;) Pretty common management trick. I have a brother who is a master at it, little does he know I'm even better at it than him...... hehe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul.....t-one.html

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We should talk about Indians when we visit next. I love talking about ALL the New World civilizations. All aspects. I often wonder if some of that human sacrifice stuff wasn't blown out of proportion by the Spanish conquistadors, to justify their conquering of an entire continent.

April 6, 2014
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Mach is another of my favorite physicists, much misunderstood like the others. His principle, as I understand it, but not as it is delivered in undergraduate presentations, is fundamental for understanding fundamentals. Yay, Mach. He's up there with Galileo, Newton, Tesla, Goddard, and Hayward.

April 6, 2014
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That was a rather nice article on psychopaths. Why is it I have all symptoms of every psychosis about which I ever read?

That reminds me, there was a book by a guy who got himself committed. He was a doctor who liked to test the effects of drugs on his own brain as well. It was very intriguing, but I forgot why I decided not to pursue it.

Sentencing is like history: the propaganda of the victors. I just try to forgive people and give them the benefit of a doubt. When they refuse to make sense, I run like, like, a puddle of ssssssssshaving cream.

April 6, 2014
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The point the guy was making, is that the organic basis for "psychopathy" is in many of us, but that doesn't make us a psychopath. It's the decisions we make that do IMHO. (got that from Harry Potter)

Here's an interesting story. Wasn't sure where to put it, but it's of professional interest to me.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com.....one-video/

Ok after you watch this, think for a while. 1) the teacher had no idea what was in the bag, it could have been parsley, and the kid was baiting him. They are very good at that, some of them (the little brats) 2) you never restrain a kid or try to unless they are an immediate threat to someone else. See #1 we still aren't sure it's really weed. 3) the teacher endangered everyone in the room, and I'm so glad the other kids whipped out their cameras 4) emotionally I'm with the teacher too, but he needs to get a serious talking to about classroom management 5) the kid who pulled the stunt ought to be kicked out of school so hard he bounces. Education is a privilege, paid for by the citizens of our country. Not to be squandered or taken lightly.

It was science class as you might expect. Science teachers are so so abused... .kids don't take it seriously. Wasn't I just posting about science in the classroom? Absolutely no respect for the subject. Very sad, it will become a bit political mess, rather than people maybe getting better classroom management skills. I've had students pull stunts like this (worst one was a gun threat), if I think it's bad enough I just write them up, name witnesses, and move onward. Not my place to wrestle with them.

I don't know why they keep hiring people who are coaches, and who probably have minimal training in science, to teach science. Speaks for itself. Sports physiology maybe.

April 7, 2014
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I agree with you and Harry Potter. Just what is happening to me? I'm agreeing?

There has been a shortage of "good math and science teachers" for the last thirty years at least. The reason, I believe, is once you commit yourself to the scientific method, you cannot function in the irrationality of the public schools. That is my personal excuse, at least. I'll catch the vid when I can hook into it.

When I was young and energetic, my strategy was to keep kids as challenged as possible, and to strive to let there never be a dull moment in class. I loved my subject matter with a passion, however, so I always deemed it more interesting to solve a difficult problem than to offer cookies to kids for sitting still. There were some "groups" that I couldn't handle. I preferred to stick to those with whom I could relate; namely little geniuses and little geniuses disguised as troublemakers. Few there were who wouldn't live up to my expectations. One situation in particular was a long-term substitute gig in a classroom of more than thirty wild children without parental support. I couldn't even get a toehold. I quit after a few weeks. I miss the thrill of getting driven children to focus their talents and hyperactivity into learning and serving others. I don't think I have it in me to even try these days. I left my cool factor back in Michigan somewhere around 1989.

I'm sure you, luna, are great at subbing, you're smart and wise to antics. If the administrations for which you work are at all grounded in reality, they should appreciate you.

April 7, 2014
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It's like this. I was blessed with about 80 classes of children with whom I could relate, and I was able to share a lot of fun knowledge with them through the years. Now, I'm stuck with one dog that won't do a thing I ask, and who only learns more mean tricks as time goes on. That makes me a drip under pressure in education, and a moron in dog training. Had I been paired with a dog that likes me better, I would be full of myself and writing documentaries on how to get dogs to obey. As you and Harry Potter insinuate, the next kid I try to teach could pull a gun on his classmates.

Oh, and I was surprised to see Jimmy Fallon was an expert. Nod, nod, wink, wink. Why can't I be funny like him?

April 7, 2014
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Yeah they do pull guns. Literally, at a school four doors from my son's house... little nutcase toted a loaded gun to school in his backpack, nailed a 2nd grade classmate with it. She lived but needed therapy. Parents obviously should be locked up for failure to plug in brains.

These are sorta tough kids here, but the parents spank so they behave in school. But they all know about guns. 99.999% of parents have good sense and keep them locked up. Duh.

YES you can't let them get bored, that's for sure. Idle hands are the devil's workshop ;) 30 in a group is about my limit, and past that it's pretty scary. We have union limits on that sort of thing here. I'm not maniac about unions, but for teachers, it's a good thing, take my word for it.

I sub in a very good area. I would be loath to leave it. I can deal with just about any group except 8th grade, I refuse to do it. I've been offered a lot of jobs there too. I'm in good company obviously.

April 8, 2014
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I once agreed to teach an eighth-grade class because the normal teacher feared a particular cohort. It was a lot of fun getting up early and making special things to keep them entertained; and they were not all that bad after all - until the other teacher's iguana escaped and took up residence in the walls.

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heheheh I had rats get loose once. I *think* we captured them all!!! (I like lab rats)

No thank you........ no eighth graders for ME

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